the first one a critical point especially to higher education. the benefit of the affirmative action structure are not just to the individual admitted but the entirety of the university. >> think about it, governor, the world in which corporate executives, the world of public officials and the world we all work and live today are a diverse world by race, ethnicity, gender. certainly learning and being educated in an environment that looks like that world benefits each and every person whose part of that environment. that's often forgotten because we tend to think of it only as what benefited the individual who might be admitted. because of affirmative action policies. >> eliot: which is why so many presidents of institutions of higher constitution say do not keep us the freedom-- >> it's very good to see the president of the university of texas on the steps of the supreme court defending this. there are those who are saying to the courts we need this type of administration system. we need today's world to considerate amongst a number of factors w